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Post by cretsiah on Jul 7, 2017 9:53:57 GMT
Trying to understand why linux distro's dont give you a heads up about cpu speed requirements?
I'm not quite a newbie but not an intermediate either somewhere between the two.
Latest iterations of different distro's I have found running systemD on anything less than a 2.5GHZ cpu for a desktop system is kind of pointless, might be a different matter if your running a server (I dont know).
my test system is a Lenovo G570 laptop with a 1.6GHZ cpu, 8gig ram, 64-bit, can run 32-bit as well but dvd is busted ( - thanks to the kids putting the wrong region dvd into it lol).
I tried a couple of out of the box standard distro's like with systemD Ubuntu (and its so called lighter versions) Linux Mint Manjero
and to be honest I might as well be running a fully bloated winxp or win7 for the slow response of the system.
I did however find Manjero with OpenRC that ran much better, much more responsive, but at the time seemed like it might have just been a side project (you know, can it be done kind of thing). To be honest I dont think Im ready for, or at the Manjero level if something breaks, I mean I could break Ubuntu without trying to hard.
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Post by Keegan on Jul 7, 2017 12:17:12 GMT
As for breaking Manjaro, I don't actually think that will be too much of a problem as long as you install their LTS kernel. It is much more stable and is recommended by most Arch users I know of.
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Post by Keegan on Jul 7, 2017 12:23:49 GMT
>and to be honest I might as well be running a fully bloated winxp or win7 for the slow response of the system. I know what you mean! I have found that Antergos offers an exceedingly quick boot time compared to other distros I have tried, so if you are interested in trying it here are some facts to know: 1. Antergos is basically the same as Manjaro, except for the fact that they do not withhold packages for an extra week or so. This means that they have fewer security issues, but it also means that there is a greater risk of the system breaking. 2. To ensure your system never breaks, I would offer the same advice I did about Manjaro. Install their LTS kernel. 3. Antergos has the same amount of Desktop Environments available uppon install as Manjaro does. A few of them are just in their new Community ISO.
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Post by Keegan on Jul 7, 2017 12:27:53 GMT
If you are still worried about your system breaking using Antergos or Manjaro, I can assure you that I have been using Antergos for several months and it has NEVER broken on me. Since both Antergos and Manjaro are based on Arch Linux, their chances of breaking are really about the same. Thus, if Antergos hasn't broken, it stands that Manjaro won't either.
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Post by Keegan on Jul 7, 2017 12:30:45 GMT
"I mean I could break Ubuntu without trying to hard."
I have heard that Ubuntu is actually one of the easiest disros to break if the user starts mucking around under the hood. It focuses on newer users who probably won't be doing that, so their devs don't worry too much about it. Other distros are much hardier I think.
Hope this all helped!
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Post by Keegan on Jul 7, 2017 12:32:52 GMT
I also know for a fact that having a splash screen while booting up greatly slows down the process. If you can find a distro that doesn't have one, it would boot up much faster.
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Post by Keegan on Jul 7, 2017 15:39:03 GMT
As for CPU requirements, I think they should give users a heads up about them too. I know some distros do actually offer CPU requirements, such as Zorin OS. I guess some just haven't thought of it. I mean, many distros are only maintained by a few people, and they can't do everything .
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Post by cretsiah on Jul 7, 2017 23:14:22 GMT
Thanks Keegan
Although i didnt actually break Manjaro lol...
as for the boot times that doesnt bother me nearly as much as the slow programs. I am willing to accept a 3-5 minute boot time if the actual programs work flawlessy.
in the SystemD ones I listed above that I tried Firefox (or which ever browser was their main) actually run worse than the boot up process .... 5-10 minutes between webpage changes (let alone if I tried to run multiple tabs) and thats if it didnt lock up or freeze in the first place, same with trying to run some of the built-in games like tux-karts etc.
so now after trying to find out what I can, Ive decided to try out in no particular order. 1) Linux Lite - based on your suggestion (hadnt heard of it before coming to your site) 2) Antergos - based on you and a few others. 3) Calculate - might be slightly out of my league but actually looks promising 4) Devuan - mainly because they were promising a SystemD free system
What do I need from my linux Distro? this will depend on whether we have an internet connection or not LOL... yep a western world climbing down the ladder of Interent speed (term "going backwards" is used frequently) 1) Ability to watch YouTube 2) Ability to watch catchup TV (unfortunetly some sites i access still use flash/ java junk for this) 3) Ability to play off-line low end graphics games either with "Play on Linux", Wine (if I could figure out how to use it right) and Linux Games (both educational and entertainment types).
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Post by Keegan on Jul 8, 2017 1:05:26 GMT
Nice list! Just a tip: if you are using Gnome, I would suggest you uninstall Gnome Music and Gnome Documents. It should help reduce your system's load a lot.
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Post by Keegan on Jul 8, 2017 1:07:21 GMT
"Wine (if I could figure out how to use it right)" As for Wine, If you simply download a Windows program file like normal and the right click and pick "Open with Wine" it should attempt to install it correctly Hope this helps! NOTE: there is now a "Page 2" to this thread . I know I would not have noticed if I wasn't the one who made the posts there.
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